4 more ways to integrate 1/(e^x+1)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 апр 2025

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  • @Soundillusions94xyz
    @Soundillusions94xyz 7 лет назад +11

    Watching a cute boy doing cute maths, great way to wake up on a Wednesday morning.

  • @mipmip4575
    @mipmip4575 7 лет назад +24

    You sir are awesome. At first i was bad at maths in school and thought i would never understand advanced mathematics. But you and blackpenredpen inspired me to believe in maths and to have fun with it. After that i easily got A's in exams without learning much and even my teacher was impressed. Thank you for all your work :)

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen 7 лет назад +5

      mip mip yay!!!

    • @0xfeedcafe
      @0xfeedcafe 7 лет назад

      mip mip it happened the same to me, now maths are fun for me :]

    • @mipmip4575
      @mipmip4575 7 лет назад

      サkelov yey :)

  • @erggish
    @erggish 6 лет назад +1

    @8:53 , that was a super cringy but funny move there XD

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x 7 лет назад +8

    Since cosh(x) - sinh(x) = exp(-x), this "first way" is literally the first way of the last four.
    To nitpick a bit more, the last method is risky since the formula you start out with only holds for |x| < 1.
    Interesting that a restricted way yields an unrestricted result.

  • @alexandretlili775
    @alexandretlili775 7 лет назад +2

    14:33 I think this formula only works when the absolute value of the argument is strictly less than one ; so you are restricting your primitive to ]-inf,0[

    • @jorgeramos597
      @jorgeramos597 Год назад

      That geometric series only works for -1

  • @justwest
    @justwest 7 лет назад +1

    15:17 why can we interchange it? which argument would you give? I always struggle with those

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x 7 лет назад

      Der Justus
      You can interchange because of the linearity of the integral, you know, i. e. the integral of a sum of functions is equal to the sum of the integrals of each function.
      You have done that before yourself (I think), here he only uses the fancy sum sign.

    • @justwest
      @justwest 7 лет назад +1

      No, that's not right respectively not enough. The limitprocess involved in the infinite sum ruins your argument.

    • @justwest
      @justwest 7 лет назад +1

      I pondered and I'd have argued that by the Lebesgue-Konvergence theorem (or dominance konvergence theorem) one can interchange the limit and the integral sign since (-1)^n*e^nx is measurable since its continous, even though I am not even sure with this argument and if all conditions are fulfilled. I'd like to hear Flammables opinion or thought process behind what he stated.

    • @justwest
      @justwest 7 лет назад

      Yea, no question it would be too much for a video. But still, as it's mathematics, those steps should be clea, arguable and understood. Anyway, which semester are you in atm, flammable?
      Also, I may summon BPRP's help for our concern, haha^^

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x 7 лет назад +1

      Der Justus
      Please excuse my inappropriate response.
      Thanks for reminding me of the limit in the infinite sum.

  • @gardening_vibes
    @gardening_vibes 4 года назад +1

    Hey can anyone explain the derivation of formula for 1/(1-x) in the last process? Ir any derivation of the Formulas link?

  • @gammaknife167
    @gammaknife167 7 лет назад

    At 3:42 would it be easier to use inspection - the top is the negative differential of the bottom, so it just integrates to -ln(1+coshx - sinhx) right?

  • @saschatrumper
    @saschatrumper 6 лет назад

    Question: Isn't (1-x)^-1 and therefore sum(x^n ; n=[0,inf)) defined for |x|0 . so the integral is defined only for x

  • @injanju
    @injanju 7 лет назад +10

    please do 1 week of putnam exam integrals hehe

  • @sansamman4619
    @sansamman4619 7 лет назад +1

    welcome back to another segment offff:
    daddy teach's se.. math
    at 2:50 can you multiply by one outside the dx that can make my life alot easier if you can i always erase the dx and put it outside...

  • @samuelbam3748
    @samuelbam3748 7 лет назад

    At the beginning u could also just multiple the top and bottom by e^(-x) and than let u = 1 + e^(-x) so that you don't have to split it in an even and odd function

  • @cipherunity
    @cipherunity 6 лет назад

    I wonder you never used the following formula to make your solutions simple.
    ∫(derivative of f(x))/(f(x)) dx = ln (f(x)) + c
    If you have a function in the denominator and its derivative is in the numerator, you only need to take log of the function for integration.
    For example in you solution ∫cos⁡ø/sin⁡ø dø = ln (sin⁡ø) + C you do not have to make substitution.
    Any way 4 solutions of this problems are wonderful.

  • @jackvernian7779
    @jackvernian7779 7 лет назад

    Ma boi, could you recommend me some books on calculus+mathematical physics that you currently use and that are in english? I'm studying ME, but am really interested in physics and mathematics and it is very likely that I'll end up studying both later after I'm done with ME. Just for the reference, last "serious" mathematics course I finished in my study was Infinite Series(incl. Fourier and Taylor), Diff. Eqs., Laplace Transforms and basics of Mathematical Physics. And I'm doing statistics(basic) right now, so not exactly much is going on. Thanks!

  • @michaelshen436
    @michaelshen436 7 лет назад

    To sophisticated. Just 1/(e^x+1)=1-e^x/(e^x+1), and integrating e^x/(e^x+1) is trivial.

    • @michaelshen436
      @michaelshen436 7 лет назад

      Sorry, I didn't watch the video on first four solutions...

  • @JDRudie-ec4xq
    @JDRudie-ec4xq 7 лет назад

    why didn't you just integrate cos/sin as cot (x) in the second method?

  • @xAsadullahx
    @xAsadullahx 7 лет назад

    Awesome video. Another method would be to let x=ln(u) and so dx=1/u and then use PFD. That's the way I've always solved this integral.

  • @benjaminkachalla4062
    @benjaminkachalla4062 7 лет назад

    Can you try this please. ..
    Limit.as n→ infinity of [ dx/(1+x²)ⁿ] the integral takes bonds from 0 to 1

  • @curiousminds301
    @curiousminds301 7 лет назад

    Can you please solve integral from 0 to pi/2 of x^2 cos^n(x) dx please🙏🙏

  • @kironsk001
    @kironsk001 6 лет назад

    how integrate x³/e^x+1??

  • @ІгорСапунов
    @ІгорСапунов 2 года назад

    1=1+exp(x)-exp(x). So, we have integral(1)-integral(exp(x)/(exp(x)+1))=x-ln(exp(x)+1)+C

  • @barbeeisland
    @barbeeisland 7 лет назад +2

    Beautiful :).

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 7 лет назад

    Geometric series converges only for abs(q) < 1 then i doubt that last way will be acceptable

  • @ClownEdits
    @ClownEdits 7 лет назад

    haha after trying this myself this feels very interesting

  • @sarpkaplan4449
    @sarpkaplan4449 7 лет назад +7

    ı felt very differented after this vid :d

  • @___xyz___
    @___xyz___ 7 лет назад

    boi this dφs my intuition!

  • @michaelshen436
    @michaelshen436 7 лет назад

    Brilliant tricks

  • @nik_semperlotti1062
    @nik_semperlotti1062 4 года назад

    How you assume e^x

  • @barscerci9777
    @barscerci9777 7 лет назад

    Is it possible to integrate 1/(1+lnx)

    • @barscerci9777
      @barscerci9777 7 лет назад

      Flammable Maths Even with an approximation?

    • @sss-ol3dl
      @sss-ol3dl 7 лет назад

      You can absolutely find a taylors series and integrate that for an approximation, but I believe it will only be valid for 0

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 7 лет назад

      Ei - exponential integral

  • @0xVikas
    @0xVikas 7 лет назад +1

    Bro Solve iitjee advanced (entrance exam to an Indian college) questions. They are vey tough and awesome !

  • @dorianvoydie4698
    @dorianvoydie4698 7 лет назад

    Lmao why don't you just add and subtract e^x in numerator : 1 = (1+ e^x) - e^x
    So you get : The integral of 1.dx minus the integral of e^x over (e^x +1) dx... So : x - ln(1+e^x)

  • @marcioamaral7511
    @marcioamaral7511 7 лет назад

    Now that's a great video! to lift up my day
    I never asked, where are you from?
    Please 8 ways in 1/1+cos(x)

    • @sss-ol3dl
      @sss-ol3dl 7 лет назад

      Heres one way, substitute t = tan(x/2)

  • @abkoobxyoo1448
    @abkoobxyoo1448 6 лет назад

    Good ideal

  • @DhirajKumar-rx8hi
    @DhirajKumar-rx8hi 7 лет назад

    Please solve the Problems of IIT JEE Advanced ( Entrance Exam for IITs at undergraduate level in India).

  • @scottwilliams7672
    @scottwilliams7672 7 лет назад

    Excellent!

  • @jackvernian7779
    @jackvernian7779 7 лет назад +1

    cosh and sinh: integral days

  • @Legacies87
    @Legacies87 7 лет назад +4

    Awesome

  • @-CE-SumitKumar
    @-CE-SumitKumar 2 года назад

    Divide numerator and denominator by e^x

  • @MrDenver009
    @MrDenver009 7 лет назад

    intro song please?

  • @空想天则
    @空想天则 7 лет назад +1

    why not let u=e^x+1 ,it's much easier.

    • @空想天则
      @空想天则 7 лет назад

      alright then...I like your videos:)

    • @空想天则
      @空想天则 7 лет назад

      ok, I know. By the way, why are you so interested in solving these integrations?I mean I know it's interesting to use different methods to solve these problems,but does these technics or ideas really help you in your everyday work?

    • @timothyaugustine7093
      @timothyaugustine7093 7 лет назад

      空想天则 Lol, obviously not if you're not working in math field or studying math but that's not the point.

  • @NoNTr1v1aL
    @NoNTr1v1aL 7 лет назад +5

    1:16 Looks like dat boi's become a man😏

  • @jeffzheng1913
    @jeffzheng1913 Год назад

    This method is too complicated. dx/(1+exp(x)) = exp(-x) dx/(1+exp(-x)) = -d(exp(-x))/(1+exp(-x)), so integral result is -In(1+exp(-x))= x - ln(1+exp(x))

  • @user-pn9zm8qg7k
    @user-pn9zm8qg7k 6 лет назад +1

    Noice!

  • @JB-in4dj
    @JB-in4dj 7 лет назад

    You are cool.

  • @yxlxfxf
    @yxlxfxf 7 лет назад

    integrate (ln x)^2018/(x+1) from 1/e to e

  • @gammaknife167
    @gammaknife167 7 лет назад +2

    SINCH XDDD Are you purposely shunning its proper pronunciation of shine?

    • @gammaknife167
      @gammaknife167 7 лет назад +1

      Every time you say cinch, a puppy dies.

  • @bouteilledargile
    @bouteilledargile 7 лет назад +2

    First?
    Is that still relevant? No.

  • @fidgetspinner1050
    @fidgetspinner1050 7 лет назад

    666 views /0\

  • @justwest
    @justwest 7 лет назад +5

    First

    • @justwest
      @justwest 7 лет назад +2

      1=3 in F2 ma boi